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Post by carpathianpeasant on Dec 3, 2015 7:06:19 GMT -6
Hey, People! It's the next morning here already!
Guess I'll go see what the British have to say.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 7:32:01 GMT -6
It's a normal occurrence, why bother.
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Post by tindalus on Dec 3, 2015 13:37:36 GMT -6
ditto, That's what we get for making guns so easy to get.
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Post by lowell on Dec 3, 2015 17:56:57 GMT -6
Since Americans treasure having weapons that are far more deadly than flintlocks, distributed to the insane, the criminally violent, and the untrained, we must be prepared to die at any moment. I urge you all to praise the mystic law that guarantees peace and security in this life and better circumstances in the next. Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo
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Post by lowell on Dec 3, 2015 18:35:17 GMT -6
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Post by carpathianpeasant on Dec 3, 2015 20:26:14 GMT -6
Almost anything can be used as a weapon if you are hellbent on it. And, if the individual is strong enough and the victim is weak enough or not observant enough, there's not even need for a weapon. Surely some criminals think that if it's said, "You can't do that" it means literally rather than morally or socially.
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Post by lowell on Dec 3, 2015 21:25:41 GMT -6
Almost anything can be used as a weapon if you are hellbent on it. And, if the individual is strong enough and the victim is weak enough or not observant enough, there's not even need for a weapon. Surely some criminals think that if it's said, "You can't do that" it means literally rather than morally or socially. Indeed, anything can be a weapon. A flintlock rifle can be a weapon. A flintlock pistol can be a weapon. I don't read about any of the mass murders being committed with flintlock rifles or flintlock pistols. There is a reason for this, carpathianpeasant. What do you suppose that reason might be? Could it be that if the U.S. government with the assistance of the U.S. Army, the U.S. Navy, and the U.S. Air Force, along with all the law enforcement agencies and the National Guard; were to replace all citizens' personal firearms with flintlocks and destroy the confiscated firearms, that mass murders would decrease in number of events and number of people killed? If so, we should immediately do this. We can use portable metal detectors and house to house searches to accomplish this.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 5:18:22 GMT -6
A gun levels the playing field, it makes me as big as you. In today's world banning guns would only help the criminal or terrorist. We no longer live in a Beaver Cleaver world.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 7:29:21 GMT -6
Gun laws would only be for honest people. Criminals and terrorist are going to get guns irregardless of any laws and restrictions. Therefore is gun control really that great an idea?
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Post by tindalus on Dec 4, 2015 11:22:17 GMT -6
Gun laws would only be for honest people. Criminals and terrorist are going to get guns irregardless of any laws and restrictions. Therefore is gun control really that great an idea? People keep saying that, but it isn't true. 90% of criminals obtain their guns legally. If guns weren't so freely available they not only wouldn't have an easy time obtaining weapons, but they would also be arrested immediately upon finding weapons. Yes, other weapons can be used to kill people. But it isn't an accident that countries that have easy access to guns have far more mass killings than countries that make it difficult to obtain guns. Countries that have limited availability of guns have also succeeded in lowering murders also as a bi product.
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Post by lowell on Dec 4, 2015 15:28:04 GMT -6
Gun advocates say that if guns are illegal, only criminals will have guns. This is patently untrue. Law enforcement agencies, the military, and the militia (the National Guard) will still have modern guns. Besides, everyone who wants one and is not a felon, or insane, will have a flintlock rifle and/or a flintlock pistol. If it was possible for criminals to get forbidden weapons, you could buy a suitcase nuke on the street corner. You could buy a stinger missile on the street corner. You could buy Army fragmentation grenades on the street corner. We have done very well at keeping forbidden weapons out of the hands of criminals. When was the last time someone committed mass murder with a suitcase nuke?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 15:32:04 GMT -6
Gun advocates say that if guns are illegal, only criminals will have guns. This is patently untrue. Law enforcement agencies, the military, and the militia (the National Guard) will still have modern guns. Besides, everyone who wants one and is not a felon, or insane, will have a flintlock rifle and/or a flintlock pistol. If it was possible for criminals to get forbidden weapons, you could buy a suitcase nuke on the street corner. You could buy a stinger missile on the street corner. You could buy Army fragmentation grenades on the street corner. We have done very well at keeping forbidden weapons out of the hands of criminals. When was the last time someone committed mass murder with a suitcase nuke? It's never happened as you know but that's next, give it time.
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Post by lowell on Dec 4, 2015 22:52:20 GMT -6
Consider Israel and Palestine. Palestinians throw rocks, rocks can be a weapon but they are ineffective at killing many Israelis. Israelis are effective at making the Palestinians resort to rocks and they do this even though the Palestinians live separately for the most part from Israelis. In the United States, the controls can be even more effective, considering the level of surveillance achieved in the last three decades.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2015 6:00:04 GMT -6
It should be disconcerting to Americans knowing that there are people in this country of a completely different culture that given the chance would have your head on a stake. Not only that but while they were doing it they're believing they are doing God a favor. Yeah, I know it's a small percentage but never the less they are out there.
I think every person that owns a firearm should be certified and qualified with it.
Unfortunately this is not the best of all possible worlds, it's the best we have at the moment.
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Post by carpathianpeasant on Dec 5, 2015 7:26:35 GMT -6
It's rather amazing that such a topic as this should deteriorate to "gun control."
Considering that "9/11" was achieved with airplanes, logically perhaps "private pilots' classes control" or maybe "airplane control" should be included.
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