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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 5:10:16 GMT -6
I wonder if there is a one true church, there are so many.
Another question for anyone. Do you think God will judge you for things you didn't know?
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Post by carpathianpeasant on Oct 24, 2015 9:06:22 GMT -6
I wonder if there is a one true church, there are so many. Another question for anyone. Do you think God will judge you for things you didn't know? A good many seem to have some truth. Unless you deliberately refused to learn something, it's illogical to think God would judge you for something you didn't know. (And, I hope my suggestions about your "Last Night" were helpful.)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2015 4:49:28 GMT -6
It was helpful and thank you for that.
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Post by rdlb on Oct 25, 2015 12:39:44 GMT -6
I wonder if there is a one true church, there are so many. Another question for anyone. Do you think God will judge you for things you didn't know? Yes there is "One" true church. Mat 16:16-19 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Your words are what justify or condemn you because of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks; therein is how you will be judged. (Luke 6:45) Your heart (will, affections and desires) lies the seat of your love or life of who you are. Not knowing or understanding only has consequences when you stop trying to know and understand God. Hence the understanding that the Father (not flesh and blood), reveals Who the Christ (anointing) is, that is the rock Jesus will build His Church upon. His Church that I have been a member of for over four decades now. Not only I but many more of us have come to this revelation by the Father. John 12:46-48 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. John 3:17-21 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
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Post by rdlb on Oct 25, 2015 12:40:03 GMT -6
I wonder if there is a one true church, there are so many. Another question for anyone. Do you think God will judge you for things you didn't know? A good many seem to have some truth.
Unless you deliberately refused to learn something, it's illogical to think God would judge you for something you didn't know. (And, I hope my suggestions about your "Last Night" were helpful.) Agreed!
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Post by lowell on Oct 25, 2015 17:05:00 GMT -6
Those who come to the light become enlightened. (eventually)
An enlightened person has six transcendental powers.
1 the power to be anywhere at will, 2 the power to see anything anywhere, 3 the power to hear any sound anywhere, 4 the power to know the thoughts of all other minds, 5 the power to know past lives, 6 the power to eradicate illusions and earthly desires.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2015 18:19:10 GMT -6
Okay, but look at it like this. You have a number of Children, hmmm say 5. All are different from the others. The question is which one is perfect? Which one do you love most. They are all equally perfect, equally loved but yet different.
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Post by rdlb on Oct 25, 2015 20:27:02 GMT -6
Okay, but look at it like this. You have a number of Children, hmmm say 5. All are different from the others. The question is which one is perfect? Which one do you love most. They are all equally perfect, equally loved but yet different. I would assume based on your criteria that they have different but unique qualities of usefulness; therefore they are all perfect and loved equally. Psalms 136. 1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
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Post by rdlb on Oct 25, 2015 20:28:31 GMT -6
One of the most dangerous things we can do is think of ourselves differently than God does.
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Post by lowell on Oct 26, 2015 1:13:36 GMT -6
Aye, and to think of others differently than the Buddha does.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 4:24:16 GMT -6
1 Corinthians 12:12-14 12 For the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that body, being many, are one body; so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 14 For the body is not one member, but many.
That was speaking about the body of Christ (The Church).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 4:43:16 GMT -6
I am aware that the above is about the gifts of the Spirit but/and it also applies to different branches of his body (church).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 8:03:07 GMT -6
A big question For rdlb or anyone else. What does this mean? John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold (pen) or (flock): Them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold (flock), and one shepherd.
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Post by carpathianpeasant on Oct 26, 2015 11:39:55 GMT -6
A big question For rdlb or anyone else. What does this mean? John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold (pen) or (flock): Them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold (flock), and one shepherd. That seems to be one of those statements that is open to considerable interpretation. In it's most direct (and simplified) form, logically he would be referring to people who were not then among the followers (i.e., those Jews there then). Therefore, it could be read to mean Jewish people of other communities. In it's widest interpretation it could read to mean any living creature, those from other worlds and both the as-of-then unborn and those who by then died. And, if Christianity is universal, it would have to be this interpretation that is correct.
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Post by rdlb on Oct 26, 2015 18:08:30 GMT -6
A big question For rdlb or anyone else. What does this mean? John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold (pen) or (flock): Them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold (flock), and one shepherd. The Gentiles.
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