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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 13:43:30 GMT -6
I know every year I push back what I consider middle aged. I use to view people in their 60s as ancient, they no longer seem that old now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 14:05:19 GMT -6
I view age as relevant. It's not the number attached to your age, it's not how long you've lived on this earth, but more about what you've gained through those years of living. I know people in their 40s who seem ancient to me because of their outlook on life I know people in their 80s who seem young and vibrant because they have an open mind, keep current and use what knowledge they've gained through those years of living to their advantage. You're only as young or old as you think.
I've lived through the Vietnam era, I've lived through the Civil Rights upheaval, I lived in a time when TV was simple pure and entertaining. I am not a prude by any means. But sometimes enough is enough, especially on prime time.
I was lucky enough to have lived through, what I consider the best music in recent history.I've seen the Beatles, I've seen Lynyrd Skynyrd pre crash, I've seen the Grateful Dead, I've seen practically all the best of the best of the era That alone is quite enough for me to be grateful to be the age I am. I have to secretly smile to myself when I hear my Granddaughter and her friends speak of their plans for the future. I don't give them advice, I don't tell them I've been there and done that ( although I probably have ) Everyone has to experience life on their own terms. My only advice is ; "To thine own self be true"
I've lived a wonderful life, been extremely fortunate to have had the things I've had, to have never experienced hunger, have always had a great home, parents, husband, daughter and granddaughter and a wealth of friends. What more could a person ask ?
I very rarely think of age.
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Post by samsara15 on Nov 21, 2014 10:54:33 GMT -6
Anyone over 110 is physically old. Some fortunate people remain vigorous well into their 90s. But we all age differently.
I have no desire to outlive my money, no grandchildren, and few living relatives. I do not want to become a ward of the state, or a burden to my children. My 401k should last until I am in my late 90s, but I have two other pensions.
Sara has a congenital hole in her heart, so there is a strong chance I will outlive her.
We have arranged our finances so that when one of us goes, the other will not suffer much decline in income. The survivor will only lose the SS, and the companionship, of the one who died first.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 11:57:57 GMT -6
I was lQQking for a number. I know in most cases you're as old as you feel. Say you found a 1956 chevy, it had been stored in a warehouse for years. It looked new and ran even better,, it even smelled new but you would be buying an old car.
In the Bible it says man's years shall be 3 score and 10. Of course many people do not make it that long. I think after 70 you're pretty much out on your own. 80 or older I think would be old for one reason, more people don't live to be 80 or over than do.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 13:31:55 GMT -6
sydney :"I think after 70 you're pretty much out on your own."
Interpret please, what does that mean ? I just turned 70, no one has put me out to pasture yet. And why the intense focus on age ? Does it bother you, are you afraid of getting old ? It's a number, not a lifesyle
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 13:47:11 GMT -6
You're getting defensive. (smile) My mom just turned 70 Aug 9. I was just wondering if you had a number in mind. And yes we had to put her out to pasture. She's out grazing on the back forty.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 13:56:22 GMT -6
You're getting defensive. (smile) My mom just turned 70 Aug 9. I was just wondering if you had a number in mind. And yes we had to put her out to pasture. She's out grazing on the back forty. Not defensive in the least. Just wondering what you meant by 'Pretty much on your own' I'll ask again : What does that mean ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 14:26:07 GMT -6
King James Bible The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away. Psalm 90:10
The Bible promises 70 years, after that we are not covered by any of God's promises as far as life span. That's what I meant.
My Mom has went through some serious illinesses but she always said I'm going to make it to 70, it's what God promised. Well she made it.
I know theres a lot of people that don't live to be 70. It's something you have to claim by faith and hold onto.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 14:44:37 GMT -6
King James Bible The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away. Psalm 90:10 The Bible promises 70 years, after that we are not covered by any of God's promises as far as life span. That's what I meant. My Mom has went through some serious illinesses but she always said I'm going to make it to 70, it's what God promised. Well she made it. I know theres a lot of people that don't live to be 70. It's something you have to claim by faith and hold onto. OK, let me see if I can make any sense out of this. Are you saying that only people who possess faith will live to be 70 ? That is a big problem for me. My Dad died of pancreatic cancer at 63, he was a man of great faith. What happened there ? There is a big disconnect there somewhere, less we would all live to 70 the believers that is. How could God promise 70 years ? Somehow I'm not wrapping my head around that. Somewhere in the text of the Bible, time, chronological time is whacked. Do you believe that Methuselah lived to be 969 years, as the Bible says he did ? What sort of quirk of nature was that ? Obviously, he didn't 'fly away', soon after he turned 80 I don't believe that God PROMISED people of faith 70 years on this earth, because if that's the case, something has gone awry. Does God break promises ?There has to be a better explanation. The Protestant faith states that ' We are not promised tomorrow" and that is what I believe. How can it go both ways ? If God promised 70 years on this earth for believers, people of faith, the death rates from disease, war, acts of nature etc, would be greatly diminished. How do you explain that ? What do you say to a 20 year old terminal cancer patient who has lived a life of faith ? People of all ages die every day, every minute, some have unshakable faith. See my problem here ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 15:19:17 GMT -6
King James Bible The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away. Psalm 90:10 The Bible promises 70 years, after that we are not covered by any of God's promises as far as life span. That's what I meant. My Mom has went through some serious illinesses but she always said I'm going to make it to 70, it's what God promised. Well she made it. I know theres a lot of people that don't live to be 70. It's something you have to claim by faith and hold onto. OK, let me see if I can make any sense out of this. Are you saying that only people who possess faith will live to be 70 ? That is a big problem for me. My Dad died of pancreatic cancer at 63, he was a man of great faith. What happened there ? There is a big disconnect there somewhere, less we would all live to 70 the believers that is. How could God promise 70 years ? Somehow I'm not wrapping my head around that. Somewhere in the text of the Bible, time, chronological time is whacked. Do you believe that Methuselah lived to be 969 years, as the Bible says he did ? What sort of quirk of nature was that ? Obviously, he didn't 'fly away', soon after he turned 80 I don't believe that God PROMISED people of faith 70 years on this earth, because if that's the case, something has gone awry. Does God break promises ?There has to be a better explanation. The Protestant faith states that ' We are not promised tomorrow" and that is what I believe. How can it go both ways ? If God promised 70 years on this earth for believers, people of faith, the death rates from disease, war, acts of nature etc, would be greatly diminished. How do you explain that ? I will not the elaborate further. It's obvious you do not understand. Faith cometh by hearing and by hearing the word of God. Faith is a very personal thing as God's promises are. Salvation is promised to everyone...who so ever will let him come. Does everyone come to salvation, of course not. You have to own God's promises.
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Post by samsara15 on Nov 21, 2014 15:33:30 GMT -6
I was lQQking for a number. I know in most cases you're as old as you feel. Say you found a 1956 chevy, it had been stored in a warehouse for years. It looked new and ran even better,, it even smelled new but you would be buying an old car.
In the Bible it says man's years shall be 3 score and 10. Of course many people do not make it that long. I think after 70 you're pretty much out on your own. 80 or older I think would be old for one reason, more people don't live to be 80 or over than do. If you want a number, sydney...I am now 73. 80 or 82 would be enough for me. I have enjoyed many parts of life on this world, but will not regret leaving it. It has as many sorrows as joys, and many responsibilities, and duties, that we owe to others.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 15:44:09 GMT -6
sydney I have read this passage from Psalms 90:10 in several versions of the Bible, and in no version do I see anything about God promising those numbered years. IMO, since those exact words do not appear, it only means that that is a standard of measure of human life.
Where do you get that God 'promised' 70 years ? As a matter of fact I see no mention of God's name in the passage either.
It is widely thought that Moses was the author of this Psalm, although there is also speculation.
So to say that 'God promised' 70 years is a stretch.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 15:49:34 GMT -6
sydney I have read this passage from Psalms 90:10 in several versions of the Bible, and in no version do I see anything about God promising those numbered years. IMO, since those exact words do not appear, it only means that that is a standard of measure of human life. Where do you get that God ]promised' 70 years ? You are reading and trying to understand with your natural human mind. The things of God are spiritually understood, which you seem to miss by a country mile.
As a matter of fact I see no mention of God's name in either. You jest, right. lol
The whole Book is God speaking. It's God's contract with the object of God's affection....Man.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 15:56:05 GMT -6
sydney I have read this passage from Psalms 90:10 in several versions of the Bible, and in no version do I see anything about God promising those numbered years. IMO, since those exact words do not appear, it only means that that is a standard of measure of human life. Where do you get that God ]promised' 70 years ? As a matter of fact I see no mention of God's name in either. You are reading and trying to understand with your natural human mind. The things of God are spiritually understood, which you seem to miss by a country mile. So that's your answer to a 'Promise' that God never made ? I don't think I'm missing anything here, in fact I'm not reading something onto it that simply is not there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 16:02:41 GMT -6
As a matter of fact I see no mention of God's name in either. You jest, right. lol
Sydney, in the future please, reply so people can see what each poster said. The words " You jest right lol," are not mlne, although you've run them both together to make it appear so.
However I jest not.
I thought we were discussing something serious, so 'Laughing out loud' sounds very condescending. How can you possibly get a message across if you laugh in someone's face ?
I stand by my thoughts on the matter. Nowhere in Psalms 90:10 did God promise us 70 years of life on this earth, otherwise, as I said, something has altered that promise.
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