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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 10:16:01 GMT -6
"A second health care worker who cared for an Ebola patient at a Dallas hospital has contracted the virus herself. The worker, a woman who lives alone, was quickly moved into isolation at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, authorities said Wednesday. The news cast further doubt on the hospital's ability to handle Ebola and protect employees. It's the same hospital that initially sent Thomas Eric Duncan home, even though he had a fever and had traveled from West Africa. By the time he returned to the hospital, his symptoms had worsened. He died while being treated by medical staff, including the two women who have now contracted the disease." This hospital seems totally unprepared to isolate contamination from the virus. The hospital is sticking to their ability to handle these cases according to CDC protocol. However a statement from the Nurses or healthcare workers union strongly disagrees. www.cbsnews.com/news/nurses-union-dallas-hospital-lacked-ebola-protocols/www.cbsnews.com/news/nurses-union-dallas-hospital-lacked-ebola-protocols/
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 14:26:36 GMT -6
I don't think they have a clue how to protect health care workers from Ebola.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 14:40:20 GMT -6
She should be fired for violating protocol. She knew she had contact with an infected patient and that those in contact have to self quarantine for 21 days. Instead she has exposed her parents, and the people they have come in contact with at Kent State Univ. She was also symptomatic on the flight back. Now there are 132 other passengers and flight crew to monitor. That's just stupid to think you can go about your life when you have had close contact with an Ebola patient.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 20:31:01 GMT -6
I don't think they have a clue how to protect health care workers from Ebola. I'm afraid it will morph into an air born transmission. Certain strains of viruses have been known to take different transmission forms
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 20:36:22 GMT -6
She should be fired for violating protocol. She knew she had contact with an infected patient and that those in contact have to self quarantine for 21 days. Instead she has exposed her parents, and the people they have come in contact with at Kent State Univ. She was also symptomatic on the flight back. Now there are 132 other passengers and flight crew to monitor. That's just stupid to think you can go about your life when you have had close contact with an Ebola patient. Well, to her credit she did call the CDC, told them she had a low grade fever and asked for advice , The CDC told her not to worry, to go ahead and take the flight But you are right, she probably should not have flown after being in close contact with a patient with Ebola.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 20:49:34 GMT -6
I don't think they have a clue how to protect health care workers from Ebola. The WHO seems to be doing a much better job of protecting health care workers in third world countries than private hospitals here at home
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 0:29:27 GMT -6
Except over 90 have died from Ebola.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 17:07:41 GMT -6
Except over 90 have died from Ebola. Yes that is true, but consider the odds. The WHO handles hundreds, if not thousands of cases of Ebola on several fronts. Even though 90 WHO professionals have died from the disease the odds are still better than two nurses contracting the disease from one patient in Dallas. We are supposed to be the country with state of the art equipment and training necessary to combat this disease. We have the CDC, which, up until now, had had an excellent track record for handling infectious diseases. Did that agency become too complacent, or were they just caught unaware ?
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Post by matador on Oct 20, 2014 20:09:39 GMT -6
Except over 90 have died from Ebola. Yes that is true, but consider the odds. The WHO handles hundreds, if not thousands of cases of Ebola on several fronts. Even though 90 WHO professionals have died from the disease the odds are still better than two nurses contracting the disease from one patient in Dallas. We are supposed to be the country with state of the art equipment and training necessary to combat this disease. We have the CDC, which, up until now, had had an excellent track record for handling infectious diseases. Did that agency become too complacent, or were they just caught unaware ? Neither one, they have had their funding cut and had to reduce and stop research in many areas. Maybe call your representative to give back the funding they need!!! God forbid the far right from taking over Congress or we'd be knee deep in Ebola. There are many to blame in this fiasco but there might not be if they had the funds to begin with.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 21:17:29 GMT -6
Yes that is true, but consider the odds. The WHO handles hundreds, if not thousands of cases of Ebola on several fronts. Even though 90 WHO professionals have died from the disease the odds are still better than two nurses contracting the disease from one patient in Dallas. We are supposed to be the country with state of the art equipment and training necessary to combat this disease. We have the CDC, which, up until now, had had an excellent track record for handling infectious diseases. Did that agency become too complacent, or were they just caught unaware ? Neither one, they have had their funding cut and had to reduce and stop research in many areas. Maybe call your representative to give back the funding they need!!! God forbid the far right from taking over Congress or we'd be knee deep in Ebola. There are many to blame in this fiasco but there might not be if they had the funds to begin with. Matador, every subject that comes up is not the fault of the diabolical Republicans. Funding had not ONE thing to do with the information the CDC gave the nurse who flew to Cleveland.. NOT ONE thing. Money had nothing to do with the way the CDC handled this situation in Dallas. We have a CDC director who thinks it's not necessary to cover the entire body in protective gear. He said that only the eyes, nose, mouth and hands must be covered, he was not worried about any other body parts being exposed. So.. what does that have to do with funding ? The hospital in Dallas should have been more proactive in their handling of the first Ebola case, Mr Duncan. What did that have to do with funding ? Information does not cost money.. not one red dime. The Texas hospital overlooked all the red flags in Mr Duncan's case when they sent him home the first time. They put their personnel in harm's way simply by not following protocol that has been long established for infectious diseases, especially something as serious as Ebola. So tell me ,in the grand scheme of things, what any of this has to do with the devilish Republicans and funding the CDC ? Every hospital in the US already had hazmat gear on hand. it's not as if they have to have them Fed Ex'd every time the need arises. Every hospital also has training in infectious diseases. All three of these cases fall directly into the mishandling by the Texas hospital. The only thing lacking with the CDC is a director who should be fired for giving bad info. Now, tell me how does funding or a lack of funding by the Republicans have anything to do with this issue ? Matador :"God forbid the far right from taking over Congress or we'd be knee deep in Ebola " I Haven't heard one peep about funding having anything remotely to do with the three cases we've already seen. Chalk that up to human ERROR. You reference 'research' ? All the research in the world wouldn't have helped the situation in Dallas. They already know the symptoms of Ebola, they knew Mr Duncan had recently arrived from Africa AND they already knew the protocol for handling Ebola cases, BUT someone dropped the ball. This is all on hosp administration. Protection for their employees and other staff and patients were not followed correctly, now how is that the fault of the mean old Republicans ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 21:55:10 GMT -6
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/10/15/the-absurd-claim-that-only-republicans-are-to-blame-for-cuts-to-ebola-research/Fact Checker : The absurd claim that only Republicans are to blame for cuts to Ebola research As for the CDC, you will see (page 46) a similar pattern. The numbers have bounced around $6.5 billion in recent years. (CDC receives both an appropriation from Congress and, since 2010, hundreds of millions of dollars from the Prevention and Public Health Fund established by the Affordable Care Act.) Before 2008, the agency received less than $6 billion a year. In fiscal year 2013, the White House proposed a CUT in CDC’s funding, but Congress ADDED about $700 million. In 2014, the administration again proposed REDUCING the budget, but Congress BOOSTED it to $6.9 billion, (Note, as this Congressional Research Service report documents, CDC also is funded by nearly $4 billion in mandatory fees. The numbers above refer only to congressional appropriatio The Pinocchio Test: On many levels, this line of attack is absurd. Obama’s Republican predecessor oversaw big increases in public-health sector spending, and both Democrats and Republicans in recent years have broadly supported efforts to rein in federal spending. Sequestration resulted from a bipartisan agreement. In some years, Congress has allocated more money for NIH and CDC than the Obama administration requested. Meanwhile, contrary to the suggestion of the DCCC ad, there never was a specific vote on funding to prevent Ebola.There’s no doubt that spending has been cut, or at least failed to keep pace with inflation, but the fingerprints of both parties are on the knives. This blame game earns Four Pinocchios. So don't believe everything you hear !
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Post by matador on Oct 21, 2014 21:21:42 GMT -6
Neither one, they have had their funding cut and had to reduce and stop research in many areas. Maybe call your representative to give back the funding they need!!! God forbid the far right from taking over Congress or we'd be knee deep in Ebola. There are many to blame in this fiasco but there might not be if they had the funds to begin with. Matador, every subject that comes up is not the fault of the diabolical Republicans. Funding had not ONE thing to do with the information the CDC gave the nurse who flew to Cleveland.. NOT ONE thing. Money had nothing to do with the way the CDC handled this situation in Dallas. We have a CDC director who thinks it's not necessary to cover the entire body in protective gear. He said that only the eyes, nose, mouth and hands must be covered, he was not worried about any other body parts being exposed. So.. what does that have to do with funding ? The hospital in Dallas should have been more proactive in their handling of the first Ebola case, Mr Duncan. What did that have to do with funding ? Information does not cost money.. not one red dime. The Texas hospital overlooked all the red flags in Mr Duncan's case when they sent him home the first time. They put their personnel in harm's way simply by not following protocol that has been long established for infectious diseases, especially something as serious as Ebola. So tell me ,in the grand scheme of things, what any of this has to do with the devilish Republicans and funding the CDC ? Every hospital in the US already had hazmat gear on hand. it's not as if they have to have them Fed Ex'd every time the need arises. Every hospital also has training in infectious diseases. All three of these cases fall directly into the mishandling by the Texas hospital. The only thing lacking with the CDC is a director who should be fired for giving bad info. Now, tell me how does funding or a lack of funding by the Republicans have anything to do with this issue ? Matador :"God forbid the far right from taking over Congress or we'd be knee deep in Ebola " I Haven't heard one peep about funding having anything remotely to do with the three cases we've already seen. Chalk that up to human ERROR. You reference 'research' ? All the research in the world wouldn't have helped the situation in Dallas. They already know the symptoms of Ebola, they knew Mr Duncan had recently arrived from Africa AND they already knew the protocol for handling Ebola cases, BUT someone dropped the ball. This is all on hosp administration. Protection for their employees and other staff and patients were not followed correctly, now how is that the fault of the mean old Republicans ? Well the fact is we have a do nothing Congress and that is because of the Right Wing and that can not be denied. Fact is Congress did major cuts to research and that also can not be denied. Since Republicans control the House then they are the ones who voted to do the cuts, they are the ones who made the bills to do the cuts, and for the most part it was all behind closed doors with little input from the other side. I don't totally blame the Republicans per se, but I do blame the tea party and the far right who have hijacked the Republican party. There are some really smart and brilliant people in the Republican party, but unfortunately they are being manhandled into casting the wrong votes and shut out on good legislation.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 23:38:41 GMT -6
Matador : "Well the fact is we have a do nothing Congress and that is because of the Right Wing and that can not be denied. Fact is Congress did major cuts to research and that also can not be denied. Since Republicans control the House then they are the ones who voted to do the cuts, they are the ones who made the bills to do the cuts, and for the most part it was all behind closed doors with little input from the other side."
So you did not read the fact check on your statements about The Republicans cutting spending for Ebola or the CDC CDC did you ? That was proven to be NOT True. Some years Congress allotted MORE money to the CDC than Obama asked for.. some years Obama CUT funding to the CDC. And I guess you didn't see where there WAS NEVER A VOTE for a dollar amount for Ebola research.
All that, everything you said about Congress and the CDC/Ebola issue was given four Pinocchios. I even underlined those parts for your attention. If you missed it, I will give you the info again. It's from the same source as the post I gave above, where you can read it in it's entirety. To keep saying that it's the Republicans fault for budget cuts to the CDC is simply not true
"In some years, Congress has allocated MORE money for NIH and CDC than the Obama administration requested. Meanwhile, CONTRARY to the suggestion of the DCCC ad, there NEVER was a specific vote on funding to prevent Ebola."
All the facts above have passed the fact check. So to keep repeating that it's the Republican's fault is being less than honest.
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