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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 7:45:43 GMT -6
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Post by rdlb on Jun 7, 2014 21:45:46 GMT -6
Could not view the video. I read the YouTube commentary below the video.
The Genesis account of creation and the Adam and Eve accounts are allegorical with no basis for scientific fact.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 7:35:00 GMT -6
Science and religion seldom agree.
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Post by rdlb on Jun 8, 2014 19:57:59 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2014 2:24:55 GMT -6
Are you saying you believe that? Psychobabble, nothing more.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2014 4:59:47 GMT -6
Science and religion are on different dimensions. Religion deals with the spiritual, often by faith dealing with things we can not see.
Science deals with the physical and natural world through observation. Science says if I cannot see it or prove it it probably doesn't exist.
Religion says Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1
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Post by samsara15 on Jun 9, 2014 19:34:55 GMT -6
and what about ideas? Do ideas exist? Are they religion or science?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2014 6:54:45 GMT -6
and what about ideas? Do ideas exist? Are they religion or science? That would all depend on what kind of idea it was.
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Post by rdlb on Jun 10, 2014 21:42:20 GMT -6
Are you saying you believe that? Psychobabble, nothing more. It is an interesting study that is all. Psychobabble? Or could it possibly be more? In my studies of religion and some scientific phenomena, I have seen things hard to explain and yet very real. God's universe is more than we can understand or comprehend in and from this material realm. The Bible contains more infinite knowledge than we at the present can grasp unless, we look for Him with open hearts and minds. There are times when truth appears in a different format, gleaned from the information provided.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 3:06:57 GMT -6
In the last 25 year I have devoted more time to the study on God's word then most. I have vision problems now that limits my ability to read for long periods of time. I don't claim to have all the answers but I have a fair understanding. I agree with you God and the things of God are hard to understand. God's reasons are past finding out.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 4:41:25 GMT -6
In the last 25 year I have devoted more time to the study on God's word then most. I have vision problems now that limits my ability to read for long periods of time. I don't claim to have all the answers but I have a fair understanding. I agree with you God and the things of God are hard to understand. God's reasons are past finding out. Here are some of my Bibles and Bible helps. I have a whole box full in the garage, I have no where else to put them. You can understand now why my eyes are shot.
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Post by rdlb on Jun 13, 2014 21:02:56 GMT -6
In the last 25 year I have devoted more time to the study on God's word then most. I have vision problems now that limits my ability to read for long periods of time. I don't claim to have all the answers but I have a fair understanding. I agree with you God and the things of God are hard to understand. God's reasons are past finding out. Here are some of my Bibles and Bible helps. I have a whole box full in the garage, I have no where else to put them. You can understand now why my eyes are shot. Four decades of Biblical Study and revelation of His Word. Three+ decades in the ministry. A complete library of Bible study tools, commentaries, dictionaries and a filing cabinet full of notes and articles that I have written.. A complete PC Study Bible program on one computer, and of course complete access to the internet and all of the other Bible Study sites available. Yet, with all of what has been given me to prosper in His word with quick understanding and a ministry; I am reminded always of the words of the preacher: Ecclesiastes 12:9-12 And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs. The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth. The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd. And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh. Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2014 1:07:32 GMT -6
Here are some of my Bibles and Bible helps. I have a whole box full in the garage, I have no where else to put them. You can understand now why my eyes are shot. Four decades of Biblical Study and revelation of His Word. Three+ decades in the ministry. A complete library of Bible study tools, commentaries, dictionaries and a filing cabinet full of notes and articles that I have written.. A complete PC Study Bible program on one computer, and of course complete access to the internet and all of the other Bible Study sites available. Yet, with all of what has been given me to prosper in His word with quick understanding and a ministry; I am reminded always of the words of the preacher: Ecclesiastes 12:9-12 And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs. The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth. The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd. And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh. Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
Thank you for that but I have no faith in anything Solomon said He was a man that had fallen from grace. Solomon married foreign women that turned him away from God. As a result God split Israel.
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Post by samsara15 on Jun 14, 2014 8:20:49 GMT -6
and what about ideas? Do ideas exist? Are they religion or science? That would all depend on what kind of idea it was. An example. Numbers. The operations of Addition and multiplication. The line. Mathematics. Is it real, universal, or is it a construct of the (each) human mind? When a new branch of mathematics, such as Lie Algebra, is found, is it discovered or invented? Pardon, pardon, my bias shows, but I don't know how to state the issue otherwise. Mathematicians themselves are divided over the issue. Another example. The plays of Shakespeare. You have a view about them, I have a view about them. Do they have a common reality, or are both interpretations valid, to some degree?
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Post by rdlb on Jun 15, 2014 16:26:07 GMT -6
Four decades of Biblical Study and revelation of His Word. Three+ decades in the ministry. A complete library of Bible study tools, commentaries, dictionaries and a filing cabinet full of notes and articles that I have written.. A complete PC Study Bible program on one computer, and of course complete access to the internet and all of the other Bible Study sites available. Yet, with all of what has been given me to prosper in His word with quick understanding and a ministry; I am reminded always of the words of the preacher: Ecclesiastes 12:9-12 And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs. The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth. The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd. And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh. Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
Thank you for that but I have no faith in anything Solomon said He was a man that had fallen from grace. Solomon married foreign women that turned him away from God. As a result God split Israel. So, what books in the Bible do you accept as scripturally important?
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