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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2014 12:37:40 GMT -6
Louisville is an old city, The inner city for years has been neglected. The last two Mayors have tried hard to rebuild the inner city and make it beautiful and family friendly. The city has spent a lot of money and time making the downtown area nice but gang violence is ruining everything. When these gangs of over 200 roam the streets no matter who they run into they get beat up, old, young, men, women, black or white. I read where the F.B.I. is joining Louisville Metro Police in trying to stop gang violence here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2014 20:26:10 GMT -6
That's a shame when kids and gangs virtually take over an entire city. Why no more police presence ?
We have our share of crimes for a fairly large city, but I've heard of no gang violence per se. Just your garden variety of other assorted crimes. We did have a few so called 'gang' related crimes a few years back and the Sheriff and Chief og Police initiated a multi departmental gang force. It didn't take long to clear this problem up. When they cracked down they cracked down hard.. Kids as young as 13 were being tried as an adult. Maybe this would work where you live.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2014 20:33:23 GMT -6
That's a shame when kids and gangs virtually take over an entire city. Why no more police presence ? We have our share of crimes for a fairly large city, but I've heard of no gang violence per se. Just your garden variety of other assorted crimes. We did have a few so called 'gang' related crimes a few years back and the Sheriff and Chief of Police initiated a multi departmental gang task force. It didn't take long to clear this problem up. They enforced a curfew for kids under 17 unless they had to be out for something work or school related, then they had to show proof. If any kid was out without a parent present, their parents were charged too. It also helped that parents were being sentenced and paying whopping big fines. That plus Jr's jail time and fines started to pile up and that's when we saw a decline. When they cracked down, they cracked down hard.. Kids as young as 13 were being tried as an adult. Maybe this would work where you live. Obviously something needs to be done.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 4:19:34 GMT -6
That's a shame when kids and gangs virtually take over an entire city. Why no more police presence ? We have our share of crimes for a fairly large city, but I've heard of no gang violence per se. Just your garden variety of other assorted crimes. We did have a few so called 'gang' related crimes a few years back and the Sheriff and Chief og Police initiated a multi departmental gang force. It didn't take long to clear this problem up. When they cracked down they cracked down hard.. Kids as young as 13 were being tried as an adult. Maybe this would work where you live. We're suppose to be the 16th largest city in the country. We have a police dept. of right under a thousand men. Louisville is like L.A. in that it spreads out and covers a large area. They just can't handle it, they have the same calls as any other city plus the gang related stuff. Yes, it is a shame what they've done to our city.
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Post by carpathianpeasant on Apr 15, 2014 6:54:05 GMT -6
Dayton was also an All American city before it lost 100,000 population. The reasons for the loss tend to harp on both taxes and crime and there are gangs, but I don't think quite as bad as what was shown in the clip. It is a well-thought out city.
A police force of 1,000 is about equivalent to Cincinnati, and the last population figure I heard for Cincinnati is about 350,000 although that may not be quite right now.
What was the "incident" they were mentioning?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 10:36:18 GMT -6
Yes it was, there was a gang of 200 teens running the streets robbing and beating people. Louisville's population in 2010 was 742,000 but it's a Metro city. For the actual cities Cincy is probably slightly larger...I think.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 19:28:26 GMT -6
Yes it was, there was a gang of 200 teens running the streets robbing and beating people. Louisville's population in 2010 was 742,000 but it's a Metro city. For the actual cities Cincy is probably slightly larger...I think. We had a couple of incidents here last year where a bunch of teenagers rushed Walmart. I think they called themselves 'flash mobs' or something similar. They weren't trying to rob the place or the customers, they were just running through the store destroying merchandise. Smashing watermelons, throwing tomatoes all over, dumping racks of clothes in the floor, opening paint cans and throwing it all over. Security immediately locked all the entrances. The police were called ( they already had two off duty policemen working there ) plus their regular security force. The cops manned the doors, and let people out one or two at a time. You can imagine how long this took. THEN, after the security film was scrutinized, and the hooligans were identified, thy were hauled off to jail . Quick thinking by Walmart management helped curtail an incident where people could have been hurt really badly. This wasn't a 'gang' in the basic sense of the word.Just a bunch of bored teenagers who thought destroying property would be fun.. turned out to be a very expensive night not only for Walmart, but for the offenders as well .... Most got jail time plus a whopping big fine and community service for a very long extended period I haven't heard of a repeat performance !
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 7:07:40 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 9:24:07 GMT -6
I'm sorry, teen or not, when someone causes physical harm to someone else, beating, stabbing etc, they have placed themselves in an adult situation. That's why I'm pro gun. I would never want to be forced into a situation where I had to use it, but in order to save my life, the life of my family, or anyone else who couldn't defend themselves, I wouldn't hesitate to use deadly force.
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Post by carpathianpeasant on Apr 16, 2014 9:46:33 GMT -6
I have to wonder how they got the view of the family peacefully driving down the road.
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