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Post by carpathianpeasant on Apr 13, 2014 4:08:01 GMT -6
Also, and as a suggestion, do not consume 2 bags of sugar free gummy bears while making a long drive to the south. This wouldn't apply to me, but I do eat plain donuts. How many were in the box and how big were they?
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Post by faileddata on Apr 13, 2014 4:51:35 GMT -6
Ah, if memory serves there were 6 of modest size and were chocolate frosted. Even made with artificial sweeteners they were excruciatingly satisfying.
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Post by faileddata on Apr 13, 2014 4:54:05 GMT -6
Sugar free products when consumed in large quantities often cause gastric distress.
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Post by carpathianpeasant on Apr 13, 2014 7:32:06 GMT -6
Sugar free products when consumed in large quantities often cause gastric distress. Well, I didn't know that. But, I don't use diabetic products. I just skip a lot of sugar, except for straight out candy.
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Post by rdlb on Apr 13, 2014 15:27:11 GMT -6
Orthodox Idea: If you just believe, God will overlook all your sins. God punishes unbelievers, even if they are caring, good people.
New Church Idea: God's mercy involves helping us become better people. God is willing to forgive everyone, and is more concerned how we live than with what we believe.
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Post by faileddata on Apr 14, 2014 0:00:20 GMT -6
Interestingly, which one of us is able to forgive god for not forgiving his children? If we won't forgive, then what does this say about our character?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 18:38:52 GMT -6
I thought certain people were going to keep this board active.
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Post by faileddata on Apr 20, 2014 13:15:26 GMT -6
Active compared to what? Who is " certain people" when you have me? I'm still breathing...
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Post by rdlb on Apr 20, 2014 13:56:03 GMT -6
Interestingly, which one of us is able to forgive god for not forgiving his children? If we won't forgive, then what does this say about our character? Why would one have to forgive god?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 16:42:20 GMT -6
Huh ? Why would you say that God is unwilling to forgive his children ?
God is love.. God is forgiveness. Where does this ' God refuses to forgive his children .come from.. ?
Jesus died a horrid death on the cross for this same reason..Jesus was sent to redeem our sins. Where is it written that God refuses to forgive his children ?
As mortals, we sometimes need to ask for God's forgiveness on a daily basis. God never expects us to be perfect. But once we realize that we are in need of forgiveness, all we need to do is ask.
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Post by faileddata on Apr 22, 2014 0:35:26 GMT -6
Orthodox Idea: If you just believe, God will overlook all your sins. God punishes unbelievers, even if they are caring, good people. New Church Idea: God's mercy involves helping us become better people. God is willing to forgive everyone, and is more concerned how we live than with what we believe. Did anyone besides me read this post? Is it acceptable to punish good caring people? No. We know it's wrong behavior. I do, anyway.
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Post by faileddata on Apr 22, 2014 0:42:53 GMT -6
PS topic is not religious , but is on the act of forgiveness. Why has it turned ugly and dark? I see my first attempted thread has become useless. Oh well. As you were.
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Post by rdlb on Apr 25, 2014 16:59:53 GMT -6
Orthodox Idea: If you just believe, God will overlook all your sins. God punishes unbelievers, even if they are caring, good people. New Church Idea: God's mercy involves helping us become better people. God is willing to forgive everyone, and is more concerned how we live than with what we believe. Did anyone besides me read this post? Is it acceptable to punish good caring people? No. We know it's wrong behavior. I do, anyway. My reply was a comparison of two different belief systems, one of the Orthodoxy and one of a spiritual New Church. I fall into the latter. For myself it is my religious belief system that has helped me to discover forgiveness for not only myself but also for others. As this commentary quoted above by you indicates to me a religious connotation. I am trying to understand as you have indicated in a PS, As I am for over four decades a Pastor and teacher of the Bible, scriptural exegesis on forgiveness as it relates to the above quoted question concerning "god" is quite conclusive. With regards to those who do not profess a Biblical belief concerning "forgiveness". I find that for most non-religious practitioners, "forgiveness" is arbitrary at best. If one forgives what is in it for me? In the Orthodox view it has the same tendency to be similarly arbitrary through much diverse doctrinal dogma.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 20:34:07 GMT -6
(Faileddata: PS topic is not religious , but is on the act of forgiveness. Why has it turned ugly and dark? I see my first attempted thread has become useless. Oh well. As you were.)
Ugly and dark ? I'm still not understanding the basis for your question . Since you introduced the statement about God not forgiving his children, we, or at least I, found it to be, if not a religious topic, at least a spiritual one. Otherwise,, why would you make the statement about God not forgiving his children ? I'm also not seeing the 'dark and ugly' part.
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Post by rdlb on Apr 26, 2014 9:26:47 GMT -6
What's the purpose of forgiveness? How does one go about it? How can anyone determine if they're finished? What are the benefits of forgiving ones own transgressions towards others? Pass the chips. One has to remember that one can only change oneself. The responsibility of others changing, remains within them alone. For myself the path to forgiveness began with me, forgiving myself. I could not change my past a fast flowing river of wrongs flowing into an ocean of self-loathing, resentments and anger. My past is an illusion, today I can move forward towards harmony within myself and with others, tomorrow is filled with possibilities of the same. The weight of my past has been lifted and I can easily shoulder now the possibilities of accepting myself and others for who I am and who they are. Accepting others for who they are does not mean an acceptance of evil acts and condoning those acts, after all they were innocent children as we once were. Changing oneself is a choice as it remains a personal and responsible choice for others as well. As we change within and discard those things, fear, anger, hatred and resentments along with similar emotions; we discover that our new life of forgiveness and love begins to affect those around us in positive ways. It takes time, it is not done in a single day or moment. If not me, who? If not now, when? Love is an action word, living for others in positive and not negative ways. Finding the good in oneself and in others and then promoting that good. If some individuals do not respond to our efforts that is ok, that is their choice. Yet, our response does affect who we can become, something far more greater than what we once were.
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