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Post by tindalus on Nov 30, 2015 8:28:41 GMT -6
He stripped education of it's funding. He so poorly mismanaged the budget that he couldn't even pay for the election. The state is so disatisfied with his performance that he wouldn't have even won his own state. Further more, een the republicans recommended the democrat for governor, one of the stated reasons was that Jindhal gave the republicans a bad name the way he handled the finances. (Sigh) My parents did not own house until I was 17 years old, but with some help from my father, I (and he) paid my way through 16 years (plus some post graduate work) of private (Catholic) education. There were times when he didn't have a job and my mother was doing other people's laundry to pay the rent. Now, I do believe there's a need for general public education, but the bottom line is, anyone who wants to get an education will find a way to do so. Next? I guess we can have the same school systems that Pakistan has, one run by religion that encourages ignorance and hate. Also to point out the obvious, his theory in cutting taxes for the rich....didn't work. Not a real surprise for anyone that either understands or studies economics. Trickle down theory is nothing more than voodoo economics. Preying on those that don't understand economics to vote for someone that will not help the economy. Why does it fail? For obvious reasons. As even some of the benefactors of the largess and owned republican party, no increase demand, no reason to hire anyone. That's why it has failed in Louisiana, Kansas, Wisconsin, and other republican states. And will continue to fail. Tax cuts don't help the economy unless it is centered among those that are going to actually spend that money creating demand.
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Post by carpathianpeasant on Nov 30, 2015 23:29:46 GMT -6
(Sigh) My parents did not own house until I was 17 years old, but with some help from my father, I (and he) paid my way through 16 years (plus some post graduate work) of private (Catholic) education. There were times when he didn't have a job and my mother was doing other people's laundry to pay the rent. Now, I do believe there's a need for general public education, but the bottom line is, anyone who wants to get an education will find a way to do so. Next? I guess we can have the same school systems that Pakistan has, one run by religion that encourages ignorance and hate. Also to point out the obvious, his theory in cutting taxes for the rich....didn't work. Not a real surprise for anyone that either understands or studies economics. Trickle down theory is nothing more than voodoo economics. Preying on those that don't understand economics to vote for someone that will not help the economy. Why does it fail? For obvious reasons. As even some of the benefactors of the largess and owned republican party, no increase demand, no reason to hire anyone. That's why it has failed in Louisiana, Kansas, Wisconsin, and other republican states. And will continue to fail. Tax cuts don't help the economy unless it is centered among those that are going to actually spend that money creating demand.
It says I said: "Now, I do believe there's a need for general public education,..." With this: "I guess we can have the same school systems that Pakistan has, one run by religion that encourages ignorance and hate." ...Is this a claim that the Catholic school system encourages ignorance and hate? If so, that all needs to be closed down. I don't know where everyone lives, but don't come to Cincinnati with the idea, as I don't think the taxpayers would appreciate the notion of suddenly needing to at least buy (if not build) and staff 40-50 new school buildings. A computer is not a basic need. If anyone wants to put up enough cash to get Bill Gates & Co. to give him/her some windows at a reasonable profit for them, he has the right to accept any such offers and bank the money. However, as I understand it, he and his wife give a lot of it away. One can only use so much money to live. Now, given that what was overlooked, mis-read or ignored in what was quoted, one has to wonder what else has been overlooked, mis-read or ignored....
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Post by lowell on Dec 1, 2015 2:06:14 GMT -6
What many ultra wealthy people do with the money is to sequester it overseas, by buying property and foreign companies. Then they move their headquarters there and avoid paying taxes. The ultra wealthy were putting so much cash in the banks that the banks began charging them for parking their money there.
When you reduce taxes on the poor and the middle class, those people don't move their money into overseas tax shelters. That money gets spent on things they have put off out of necessity. Things like a new kitchen or a new car. Things like a real vacation instead of a working vacation. My father, in the 1950s would take the family on a month long vacation. We went to Yellowstone. We went to the Carlsbad Caverns. We went to Disneyland. We went to Banff and Lake Louise and Canadian Ice Fields. We went to one of the last old growth forests in Washington State and took trips down the Washington and Oregon coast. We visited the Sequoias and Redwood Forests in Northern California. We went to the craters of the moon park in Idaho. We visited Crater Lake in Oregon.
I have never taken my children on vacations like that. We couldn't afford it and we didn't have the vehicle that would make the trip.
Now we have reduced our people to only spending their money on bare necessities. Carpathianpeasant says "A computer is not a basic need. " Yes, it is not a requirement to have one to continue existing, and to continue existing is all anyone really needs. People don't need music concerts, they don't need to see the U.S.A.. They don't need to get a free college education online at M.I.T.. They can walk to their library and check out some books and learn nearly anything they can learn on a computer. If they time it right, they may be able to use a computer at their local library. They probably won't get enough time on it to graduate from M.I.T.. But only the elite, the children of the ultra wealthy need to go to college. Those children need a college education so they can make decisions for the rest of us, and so they can be shrewd and well informed on smart business practices to protect their family wealth and power. None of the rest of us need to worry about those things. For us, ignorance is bliss.
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Post by tindalus on Dec 1, 2015 10:09:20 GMT -6
I guess we can have the same school systems that Pakistan has, one run by religion that encourages ignorance and hate. Also to point out the obvious, his theory in cutting taxes for the rich....didn't work. Not a real surprise for anyone that either understands or studies economics. Trickle down theory is nothing more than voodoo economics. Preying on those that don't understand economics to vote for someone that will not help the economy. Why does it fail? For obvious reasons. As even some of the benefactors of the largess and owned republican party, no increase demand, no reason to hire anyone. That's why it has failed in Louisiana, Kansas, Wisconsin, and other republican states. And will continue to fail. Tax cuts don't help the economy unless it is centered among those that are going to actually spend that money creating demand.
It says I said: "Now, I do believe there's a need for general public education,..." With this: "I guess we can have the same school systems that Pakistan has, one run by religion that encourages ignorance and hate." ...Is this a claim that the Catholic school system encourages ignorance and hate? If so, that all needs to be closed down. I don't know where everyone lives, but don't come to Cincinnati with the idea, as I don't think the taxpayers would appreciate the notion of suddenly needing to at least buy (if not build) and staff 40-50 new school buildings. A computer is not a basic need. If anyone wants to put up enough cash to get Bill Gates & Co. to give him/her some windows at a reasonable profit for them, he has the right to accept any such offers and bank the money. However, as I understand it, he and his wife give a lot of it away. One can only use so much money to live. Now, given that what was overlooked, mis-read or ignored in what was quoted, one has to wonder what else has been overlooked, mis-read or ignored.... Or they spend it to purchase the local house and senate leaders like the Koch brothers. etc.
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