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Post by rdlb on Nov 15, 2015 18:53:25 GMT -6
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Post by lowell on Nov 16, 2015 6:45:09 GMT -6
I did not realize that the Jihadists were such a high percentage. That high a percentage of fanatical Muslims is a clear indication that Islam is a failure as a religion.
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Post by orogenicman on Dec 12, 2015 4:30:33 GMT -6
Where did this statistic come from?
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Post by tindalus on Dec 12, 2015 6:43:06 GMT -6
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Post by rdlb on Dec 12, 2015 16:06:12 GMT -6
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Post by lowell on Dec 13, 2015 14:04:08 GMT -6
The Pew research link is about the percent of population in Europe that is Muslim, it is not about the percent of Muslims that approve of Jihadism.
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Post by carpathianpeasant on Dec 13, 2015 14:57:25 GMT -6
The Pew research link is about the percent of population in Europe that is Muslim, it is not about the percent of Muslims that approve of Jihadism. Might be a tad dangerous to say so.
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Post by rdlb on Dec 13, 2015 20:48:46 GMT -6
The Pew research link is about the percent of population in Europe that is Muslim, it is not about the percent of Muslims that approve of Jihadism. You are correct. Yet, of those and again, we have no idea of how many might be radicalized now or in the future.
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Post by lowell on Dec 14, 2015 3:25:10 GMT -6
The original post in this thread was a link to a video which featured an assertion that as many as 20% of Muslims approve of jihadists. The request from orogenicman and Tindalus was for a link to the information that the assertion was based on. The female council member who delivered the assertion seemed confident that the assertion was valid and reliably researched. It would appear that her source was somebody else's imagination, a complete fabrication, a justification for persecution.
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Post by carpathianpeasant on Dec 14, 2015 4:40:56 GMT -6
The original post in this thread was a link to a video which featured an assertion that as many as 20% of Muslims approve of jihadists. The request from orogenicman and Tindalus was for a link to the information that the assertion was based on. The female council member who delivered the assertion seemed confident that the assertion was valid and reliably researched. It would appear that her source was somebody else's imagination, a complete fabrication, a justification for persecution. Check out her background.
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Post by rdlb on Dec 14, 2015 20:30:57 GMT -6
I do not necessarily agree with all of what was said on the video link I posted at the beginning. For myself it is quite difficult at best to surmise just how many, (percentage wise), potential radicals there might be.
"The peaceful majority were irrelevant".
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Post by orogenicman on Dec 14, 2015 22:37:25 GMT -6
The Pew research link is about the percent of population in Europe that is Muslim, it is not about the percent of Muslims that approve of Jihadism. You are correct. Yet, of those and again, we have no idea of how many might be radicalized now or in the future. Can you give us the percentage of Christians in Europe (or the U.S., or the world, for that matter) who are at risk of being radicalized?
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Post by carpathianpeasant on Dec 15, 2015 6:38:13 GMT -6
Let me repeat it:
"The peaceful majority were irrelevant."
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Post by lowell on Dec 16, 2015 12:20:47 GMT -6
A true religion changes those who believe in it. We can evaluate religions by three proofs. The literal proof (what is written, who wrote it, when it was written) The theoretical proof (does it make sense, does it agree with science) The Actual proof (do the believers become more virtuous and peaceful, do they benefit society and the world) Of these proofs, actual proof is the most important. The true religion brings judgement quickly to the believer who transgresses. That way the believer is taught the error of incorrect thinking before the believer makes serious errors through actions.
Jesus said: “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘You shall not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment. But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell."
Jesus was not able to provide people with a religion powerful enough to bring judgement in a timely manner. His religion could not save people from the fires of hell.
Jesus foresaw that a more powerful religion would be revealed by a person he called his Father. "He will come" Mark 12:9 also found in Matthew 21:33-46 and Luke 20:9-19 This prediction of the appearance of the Father on Earth was considered important enough that three of the four gospels included it.
It is true that Islam is an incorrect religion. It is also true that Christianity and Judaism are incorrect religions for this time period. All the Abrahamic religions fail the test of actual proof now that the Father has appeared and given us the true, powerful religion that brings judgement quickly to believers.
This is my response to moderate Islam, and moderate Christianity and moderate Judaism. They are poisonous religions whose adherents fall into the three evil paths of greed, animality and anger.
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Post by tindalus on Dec 16, 2015 16:59:55 GMT -6
There was a study recently that showed that religious christian children are more vicious and mean then atheist children........ Yes I won't tar the christian religion because of that, bu I am just saying.................
Another point to make about the claim of 20% of muslims are sympathizers. That doesn't mean that 20% would participate or even be interested in participating. very few would do so.
Also another point of muslims that have immigrated to this country. Only about 3 to 4 people have actually become terrorists. Out of 700,000 or more that have immigrated...that isn't even close to 1%.
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