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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 8:59:36 GMT -6
I saw where a colonoscopy is now not recommended for people 70-75 and older. They said the risks were too great. Something new.
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 20, 2014 18:41:20 GMT -6
There has always been some risk involved, and not minor risks. The colonoscopy can cause several severe problems on its own. I've never had one, and now never will. It's a personal decision, and depends on which risks you want to take, and to avoid. But then, I tend to be somewhat of a fatalist, and not very trustful of the medical profession.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 3:32:50 GMT -6
Well I sort of agree. I don't think many people like going to the doctor or the hospital, I know I don't but if you're really sick that's where you should be. My biggest gripe about hospitals is they won't let you get any rest. Someone was in there ever 20 minutes doing something.
One hospital I was in a lady kept coming in every hour during the night taking blood. I finally ask her why are you doing this? She said I take the blood down to the Lab and they measure something in the blood and if it goes down they know you've taken a turn for the worse, they thought I was going to die, obviously I didn't.
Some people are afraid of hospitals because most people die in one. They fail to see all the good they do and the lives they've helped.
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 21, 2014 8:57:37 GMT -6
I am going to die under hospice care, at home, I hope, but then you never know what will happen. I just hope it will be as cheap, pain free, and quick as possible, but sometimes we have little control over that.
I cut my hand with a small pair of limb clippers a few years ago, working in the yard, and had to drive myself to the hospital emergency room for stitches, since I was alone at home and it wouldn't stop bleeding. They did a great job.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 10:21:06 GMT -6
People who avoid testing such as colonoscopies and mammograms are leaving their health to chance. Early detection is key. But if you have no interest in letting colon cancer or breast cancer take your life, then by all means, avoid them
We lost a dear friend to colon cancer. He was only in his early 50s. Had he been vigilent, he could still be alive today. Of course people in hospitals die. People die in all sorts of settings. Sometimes, it's just inevitable but I wouldn't go so far as to say that most people die in hospitals.
sydney, you mentioned not getting any rest in the hospital. People have jobs to do, and one of those jobs is blood monitoring. It's vital in certain cases to monitor blood work closely to see if the medical approach is working. Without blood work how are the Drs supposed to know if what they are doing is working ? If blood work shows no improvement, then another approach is needed. I have RA, was diagnosed in 1986, and since that time have had blood work every six weeks. It's a small inconvenience. Without the blood work, I get no meds. I prefer to be pain free, so I go willingly. I'm just glad that I have a Dr who is totally dedicated to her field of expertise.
IMO, the chance of something going wrong during a colonoscopy is small. The chance of dying from undiagnosed colon cancer is much greater.
I wonder if the new guidelines for colonoscopies have anything to do with Obamacare ?
If you have a good Dr , a colonoscopy is completely pain free. Colon cancer... not so much
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 21, 2014 14:50:41 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 4:33:19 GMT -6
73 is not considered that old any more. I had two people in my family make it to 97. who's to say you may have 25 good years left.
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 22, 2014 6:50:49 GMT -6
I don't want those years. I have seen them in our parents, and do not think they are not necessarily high quality years of living
My Mom lived to 94, gradually ran down, no longer enjoying life, and was quite glad to go when she went in 2012. Sara's Mom lived to 86, had endured enough, after getting over cancer three times, and was quite glad to die under Hospice Care in 2000. My Dad went of lung cancer, at 74, in 1989, and wished they had never tried to cure him. Sara's Dad went, at 78, in 1988, of liver cancer, and also wished the doctors had let him die without making the effort to save him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 7:45:23 GMT -6
I understand but it's said a drowning man will reach for a straw. All I'm saying is at some point you may change your mind. I know that people who are aged and sick do welcome death often.
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 22, 2014 7:52:06 GMT -6
None of us can predict what will happen, can we? Yes, you are right, people quite often change their minds. We just have wait and see what transpires.
So far, I am quite healthy, and we still have plenty of money to support ourselves for years to come. If the stock market were to go down a lot like it did around 2007 or so, for example, and stay down, our 401ks would tank.
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