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Post by tindalus on Aug 11, 2014 21:15:52 GMT -6
Never said that, but to think that somehow others that don't believe as yourself, aren't enjoying their lives just as much as yours, is the height of of someone that looks down on others. Just because you are convinced that christianity is the answer...that is he answer for you. Not for others. For me to be a christian, would be a downer. But that doesn't mean you aren't happy. It only means we see the world differently and we both....least I hope you do....enjoy life and all it's bounty as much as I do.
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 12, 2014 6:42:01 GMT -6
People of other beliefs (or none) think their beliefs are correct, too, and suffer for them, as well. But there is no way of knowing if any of it was worth suffering for.
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 12, 2014 8:07:29 GMT -6
If you take such an aggressive, almost boastful posture, people will react negatively, and honestly, could you blame them? Put yourself in their shoes.
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 12, 2014 13:16:25 GMT -6
Then I can understand why you have so many problems on so many boards. Yes, you are aggressive.
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 12, 2014 14:00:02 GMT -6
People who are unwilling to compromise are hard to live with and around. Their attitude forces others to continually squabble with them, leave them alone, or become their doormat.
Yes, I am judging. Aren't you judging also? Aren't you telling us that not only do you yourself judge, but that you never compromise, or even consider the possibility of being wrong? I may be wrong, do you ever think you might be?
Isn't it very arrogant to think your moral compass is superior to that of everyone else?
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 12, 2014 14:15:56 GMT -6
People who won't or can't compromise can also live together under armed truce...sort of like Israel and Palestine. With periodic episodes of disagreement of various intensity to be expected.
But all humans disagree about some issues. That's life.
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Post by tindalus on Aug 12, 2014 14:32:28 GMT -6
Another issue with lack of compromise is that when you "close" your mind, you shut off the ability to learn and grow. None of us know all the answers. All of us have the opportunity to learn from our experiences. But if you close your mind, you will miss the lessons from the events in life and fail to grow.
The key is to be like a child. Seeing life fresh with an open mind and growing everyday.
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 12, 2014 14:51:09 GMT -6
If you take such an aggressive, almost boastful posture, people will react negatively, and honestly, could you blame them? Put yourself in their shoes. I didn't think I was aggressive. I'm only stating what I believe in so I do not apoligize. You seem unsure what you believe in. It was settled for me some time ago, I am sure in whom I believe in. Nevertheless I am not ashamed, for I know in whom I have believed and am persuaded that he is able to keep what I have committed to him until that day. 2 Timothy 1:12. If you think I'm aggressive because I won't capitulate on what I believe in then you are right. Finding common ground is not an option. Finding common ground is not an option. You said it. That's why the world is filled with endless war, killing, and strife.
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 12, 2014 15:56:50 GMT -6
I do compromise. Often. I have already bent over backwards to accommodate myself to your beliefs, for example.
Surrender or die? How obnoxious. What would you do next, tell us how and when to go to the bathroom, and how to part our hair?
What is your solution to disagreement, sydney? Let you rule the world?
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 12, 2014 16:03:26 GMT -6
You make it hard to seek common ground, sydney.
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 12, 2014 16:20:20 GMT -6
If you feel that way why don't you compromise and become a Christian? Be an example. I could become a Christian, but what good would that do? Many Christians have become Muslims under forced conversions. Many Jews have also become Christians under forced conversions, too, in olden times. But what good would that do? I still wouldn't believe in Christ or Christianity, it would only be a false public display. Would you prefer that I disbelieve in silence? And that all others like me, who also do not believe, keep silent, too?
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Post by tindalus on Aug 12, 2014 17:40:24 GMT -6
And besides, I find few good examples among christians. In other words, the way they live their lives is their testimony that christianity isn't the path to follow. That's why I sought and follow a different path.
But having said that, I have no problem with the idea that christians can be moral individuals fill with love and joy for all their fellow men. After all, there are wise people in all religions or atheists that are filled with joy and follow a moral principal that is good.
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 13, 2014 3:46:52 GMT -6
If you feel that way why don't you compromise and become a Christian? Be an example. If you want me to set an example of compromise, perhaps I should do so in a reasonable way by trying not to be so easily offended...we both could try that. Could you compromise that much?
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 13, 2014 4:18:45 GMT -6
And besides, I find few good examples among christians. In other words, the way they live their lives is their testimony that christianity isn't the path to follow. That's why I sought and follow a different path. But having said that, I have no problem with the idea that christians can be moral individuals fill with love and joy for all their fellow men. After all, there are wise people in all religions or atheists that are filled with joy and follow a moral principal that is good. People are human. Peter denied the Lord 3 times. Thomas refused to believe the Lord had risen unless he could see it. At best we're weak. Odds are you're not perfect either. It's a dailey struggle. Look at what Robin Williams just did, We're frail and imperfect beings with all kinds of weaknesses. Why should it not also be true if the person were a Christian? There are more liars, cheats and troubles makers in church than there are in bars a night clubs. In bars and night clubs the devil has most of them already on his list. It's in church he desires to cause problems. It's the people of God he hates. He seeks to destroy the object of God's effection...MAN. What devil? There might be a God, of a sort, but a devil is one God too many.
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Post by samsara15 on Aug 13, 2014 4:48:36 GMT -6
Yes, but what does that have to do with it?
The evil in the world comes from human beings. Not from some outside agent. We are quite capable of creating our own evil, and making our own mistakes.
If there is a God, I don't humankind is so special. We're just another animal. Beetles, ants, and/or bacteria, based on numbers and biomass, are more likely the favored species, if there be one such.
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