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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2021 13:32:09 GMT -6
Buddhism is a philosophy not a religion.
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Post by James T. Kirk on Jul 3, 2021 13:57:05 GMT -6
Buddhism is a philosophy not a religion. Or Buddhism is a philosophy and a religion.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2021 14:24:33 GMT -6
Buddhism is a philosophy not a religion. Or Buddhism is a philosophy and a religion. You are of course wrong....Google it.
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Post by James T. Kirk on Jul 3, 2021 15:08:17 GMT -6
Or Buddhism is a philosophy and a religion. You are of course wrong....Google it. I don't need to Google my own opinion. Without Googling it, I predict Google will produce thousands of other thoughts and opinions on the topic. Some will agree with me. Some may agree with you. Does it really matter?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2021 16:02:58 GMT -6
You're saying if you say it's so, then it is.
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Post by lowell on Jul 3, 2021 16:42:14 GMT -6
Define a religion. Here I'll help. "the service and worship of God or the supernatural" What is reality? Physicists say that the reality we know is only 5% of what reality is. The unknown reality is referred to as "dark matter" and "dark energy". The Buddha taught, in the Lotus Sutra, Chapter 16, (in part) "The Thus Come One perceives the true aspect of the threefold world exactly as it is. There is no ebb or flow of birth and death, and there is no existing in this world and later entering extinction. It is neither substantial nor empty, neither consistent nor diverse. Nor is it what those who dwell in the threefold world perceive it to be. All such things the Thus Come One sees clearly and without error. " You should understand from this, that the supernatural is well understood by the founder of Buddhism. The Sutra of infinite meanings states in part. ' If a bodhisattva wants to learn and master this doctrine of Innumerable Meanings, he "should observe that all [phenomena] were originally, will be, and are in themselves void in nature and form; they are neither great nor small, neither appearing nor disappearing, neither fixed nor movable, and neither advancing nor retreating; and they are nondualistic, just emptiness."
"Supremely great and greatly awakened is the great lord of sages! With no defilement, no contamination, and no attachment, He trains heavenly beings and men like a trainer of elephants and horses. His cultivation and virtues are like wind or fragrance that permeates everything. His wisdom is tranquil, His sentiments are peaceful, and His thinking is focused and still. His thoughts and consciousness have ceased, and His mind is silent. He has forever eliminated the delusions of His thinking, perceiving and recollecting. He is never again influenced by the Elements, the Skandhas, the Realms, or the Entrances.
His body is neither existent nor non-existent, Arises from neither causes nor conditions, and does not discriminate self from others. It is neither square nor round, neither short nor long, Neither appearing nor disappearing, neither arising nor ceasing, Neither creating nor inciting, nor contriving nor producing, Neither sitting nor lying down, neither walking nor standing still, Neither moving nor turning, neither idle nor tranquil, Neither advancing nor retreating, neither safe nor in danger, Neither right nor wrong, neither gaining nor losing, Neither that nor this, neither going nor coming, Neither blue nor yellow, neither red nor white, Neither scarlet nor purple, nor any variety of colors."
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Post by James T. Kirk on Jul 3, 2021 16:48:44 GMT -6
You're saying if you say it's so, then it is. I am saying nothing of the kind. I expressed an opinion. You on the other hand did imply that "if you say it's so, then it is", when you said I was wrong and suggested I Google it.
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Post by lowell on Jul 3, 2021 16:55:05 GMT -6
Only a person who does not clearly understand what religion is, and what Buddhism is, would say that Buddhism is not a religion.
The U.S. government defines Nichiren Shoshu as a religion. Ignorant people may not know this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2021 5:40:52 GMT -6
Only a person who does not clearly understand what religion is, and what Buddhism is, would say that Buddhism is not a religion. The U.S. government defines Nichiren Shoshu as a religion. Ignorant people may not know this. Not a Religion.
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Post by James T. Kirk on Jul 4, 2021 6:31:19 GMT -6
When you were "Googling" and settled on that Youtube video to support your opinion, did you you find any other videos or web sites that said Buddhism IS a religion? If you are honest, you will admit you did. Can you explain in your own words why ignore those other opinions and chose this single video is the end all, be all on the question?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2021 7:06:22 GMT -6
When you were "Googling" and settled on that Youtube video to support your opinion, did you you find any other videos or web sites that said Buddhism IS a religion? If you are honest, you will admit you did. Can you explain in your own words why ignore those other opinions and chose this single video is the end all, be all on the question? You are correct but Mr. Webster says its not a religion. He's seldom wrong.
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Post by James T. Kirk on Jul 4, 2021 8:35:06 GMT -6
When you were "Googling" and settled on that Youtube video to support your opinion, did you you find any other videos or web sites that said Buddhism IS a religion? If you are honest, you will admit you did. Can you explain in your own words why ignore those other opinions and chose this single video is the end all, be all on the question? You are correct but Mr. Webster says its not a religion. He's seldom wrong. Noah Webster died in 1843 so I doubt he's posted anything about it on the Internet. The Merriam-Webster online dictionary defines Buddhism as follows: "a religion of eastern and central Asia growing out of the teaching of Siddhārtha Gautama that suffering is inherent in life and that one can be liberated from it by cultivating wisdom, virtue, and concentration." That said, you are entitled to your opinion. I disagree with your opinion. Your post to me saying "You are of course wrong....Google it" was condescending, presumptuous and showed how little you "Googled" it yourself. As I have said, you are free to post here. But if you come here with an attitude you will be treated in kind. Link provided: www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Buddhism
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Post by lowell on Jul 4, 2021 13:57:13 GMT -6
Each sect of Buddhism considers itself to be correct. Why practice an incorrect religion?
Zen is the closest to not being a religion. Jodo Shinshu (the sect that praises the Amida Buddha and believes that their praise will allow them to be born in a heaven world together with Amida) is definitely a religion. It is also very similar to Christianity that believes that praise of Jesus will allow Christians to be born again in heaven with Jesus.
Jehovah Witnesses are a different sort of Christianity. They don't believe in the value of displaying a cross or even a cross with the dead body of Jesus nailed to it. I've heard that they don't believe that Jesus is God.
The definition that popped up for me was Merriam Webster as well.
Definition of religion
1a : the state of a religious a nun in her 20th year of religion b(1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance 2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices 3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness 4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
Now if Sydney accepts the definition of service and worship of God or the supernatural, Sydney must allow that service and worship of the supernatural is a religion. I have shown that the supernatural is an inherent part of the life of the Buddha and his teachings.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2021 2:52:28 GMT -6
Each sect of Buddhism considers itself to be correct. Why practice an incorrect religion? Zen is the closest to not being a religion. Jodo Shinshu (the sect that praises the Amida Buddha and believes that their praise will allow them to be born in a heaven world together with Amida) is definitely a religion. It is also very similar to Christianity that believes that praise of Jesus will allow Christians to be born again in heaven with Jesus. Jehovah Witnesses are a different sort of Christianity. They don't believe in the value of displaying a cross or even a cross with the dead body of Jesus nailed to it. I've heard that they don't believe that Jesus is God. The definition that popped up for me was Merriam Webster as well. Definition of religion 1a : the state of a religious a nun in her 20th year of religion b(1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance 2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices 3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness 4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith Now if Sydney accepts the definition of service and worship of God or the supernatural, Sydney must allow that service and worship of the supernatural is a religion. I have shown that the supernatural is an inherent part of the life of the Buddha and his teachings. I'm no longer saying you're wrong. I of course like many others don't understand it. If you believe this and you seem very knowledgeable, drop by some time. I have a Buddhism board that's sits empty, no one knows anything about it. The stage is yours.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2021 3:01:06 GMT -6
Each sect of Buddhism considers itself to be correct. Why practice an incorrect religion? Zen is the closest to not being a religion. Jodo Shinshu (the sect that praises the Amida Buddha and believes that their praise will allow them to be born in a heaven world together with Amida) is definitely a religion. It is also very similar to Christianity that believes that praise of Jesus will allow Christians to be born again in heaven with Jesus. Jehovah Witnesses are a different sort of Christianity. They don't believe in the value of displaying a cross or even a cross with the dead body of Jesus nailed to it. I've heard that they don't believe that Jesus is God. The definition that popped up for me was Merriam Webster as well. Definition of religion 1a : the state of a religious a nun in her 20th year of religion b(1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance 2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices 3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness 4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith Now if Sydney accepts the definition of service and worship of God or the supernatural, Sydney must allow that service and worship of the supernatural is a religion. I have shown that the supernatural is an inherent part of the life of the Buddha and his teachings. I'm no longer saying you're wrong. I of course like many others don't understand it. If you believe this and you seem very knowledgeable, drop by some time. I have a Buddhism board that's sits empty, no one knows anything about it. The stage is yours. Lowell, I thought I had a Buddhism board but I was wrong. However if you are interested let me know and I will create one for you.
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