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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 3:41:08 GMT -6
If it turns out the Chinese are responsible should they be made to pay for the harm they've caused world wide?
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Post by lowell on Jun 15, 2021 13:35:05 GMT -6
"More evidence suggests COVID-19 was in US in December 2019, weeks before first thought By MIKE STOBBE Associated Press |
Jun 15, 2021 at 10:41 AM"
It's beginning to look like the covid went the other way, from the U.S. to China. Introduced to China by U.S. sailors on shore leave.
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Post by James T. Kirk on Jun 15, 2021 13:48:32 GMT -6
If it turns out the Chinese are responsible should they be made to pay for the harm they've caused world wide? Define "responsible". Intentionally responsible? Accidently responsible? And if they are, how do you compel them to pay? To go a step further, would the US government be responsible for deaths here for it leader(s) downplaying the pandemic to the point of insisting it was a hoax that would eventually just disappear...like magic?
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Post by lowell on Jun 16, 2021 1:16:22 GMT -6
There is a person who has other boards and posts here who claims the Chinese are dirty people, unsanitary people, this was implied by Donald Trump when he said our country would not be affected by it because of our superior medical system. His press secretary (Kayleigh McEnany) in April of last year said 'We won't see coronavirus here' .
' Trump predicted that the virus would quickly disappear on its own. “Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do—you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat—as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though. We have 12 cases—11 cases, and many of them are in good shape now.” On February 14, Trump repeated his assurance that the virus would disappear by itself. He tweeted again on February 24 that he had the virus “very much under control in the USA.” On February 27, he said that the virus would disappear “like a miracle.” '
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 7:14:38 GMT -6
They started off blaming the lab in Wuhan China. It's went a full 360, It looks like Wuhan is to blame.
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Post by James T. Kirk on Jun 16, 2021 16:46:10 GMT -6
They started off blaming the lab in Wuhan China. It's went a full 360, It looks like Wuhan is to blame. You didn't answer my previous questions but I'll go ahead and ask a couple of more. Who is "they"? And why does it look like Wuhan is to blame? It very well might have started there, but what evidence is there to confirm that?
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Post by lowell on Jun 16, 2021 17:31:16 GMT -6
The evidence shows it was here in the U.S. before the first cases in China showed up.
"31 Dec 2019
Wuhan Municipal Health Commission, China, reported a cluster of cases of pneumonia in Wuhan, Hubei Province. A novel coronavirus was eventually identified."
"More evidence suggests COVID-19 was in US in December 2019, weeks before first thought By MIKE STOBBE Associated Press | Jun 15, 2021 at 10:41 AM"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 18:45:00 GMT -6
The evidence shows it was here in the U.S. before the first cases in China showed up.
"31 Dec 2019
Wuhan Municipal Health Commission, China, reported a cluster of cases of pneumonia in Wuhan, Hubei Province. A novel coronavirus was eventually identified."
"More evidence suggests COVID-19 was in US in December 2019, weeks before first thought By MIKE STOBBE Associated Press | Jun 15, 2021 at 10:41 AM"
WTH? You keep posting a headline. WHAT'S THE EVIDENCE? And Kirk wonders why I say you go out of your way to defend China and besmirch the USA.
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Post by James T. Kirk on Jun 17, 2021 3:23:47 GMT -6
The evidence shows it was here in the U.S. before the first cases in China showed up.
"31 Dec 2019
Wuhan Municipal Health Commission, China, reported a cluster of cases of pneumonia in Wuhan, Hubei Province. A novel coronavirus was eventually identified."
"More evidence suggests COVID-19 was in US in December 2019, weeks before first thought By MIKE STOBBE Associated Press | Jun 15, 2021 at 10:41 AM"
WTH? You keep posting a headline. WHAT'S THE EVIDENCE? And Kirk wonders why I say you go out of your way to defend China and besmirch the USA. Nothing wrong with asking for evidence. So, where's the evidence that it started in China? Where's the evidence it was intentional. A lot of people, including you and the former moron in Chief were throwing around all kind of "facts" about it early on about how it was a hoax and no big deal. Now you've gotten two vaccine shots and are asking for evidence from Lowell. You didn't need evidence before.
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Post by lowell on Jun 17, 2021 3:57:22 GMT -6
WTH? You keep posting a headline. WHAT'S THE EVIDENCE? And Kirk wonders why I say you go out of your way to defend China and besmirch the USA. The headline belongs to a story by the associated press. Tell us why you don't trust the associated press. Tell us why QAnon doesn't trust the associated press. Nearly every news agency on Earth has no hesitancy about using the Associated Press for information. Now i am not responsible for your lack of education about the evidence. You likely wouldn't read it if I posted it. (too many words to translate into Russian). if you were an American you would have already read the article by googling the headline and finding the story. Now a Russian computer troll bot might not be capable of that. Biden is taking a tough stance on China as well as Russia. He should do that. China is not a place that treats American businesses who take their business there, fairly. Many American businesses lose their patent security, and lose their trade secrets after doing business in China. China has dropped the two child rule. It was considered to be a human rights issue by Republicans. Mothers in China are not likely to start having larger families. The quote from one Chinese mother was " More than two? One is too many!" If the evidence supports the position that U.S. sailors on shore leave introduced Covid 19 to China, should Trump be made to pay restitution to the World?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2021 8:21:35 GMT -6
WTH? You keep posting a headline. WHAT'S THE EVIDENCE? And Kirk wonders why I say you go out of your way to defend China and besmirch the USA. The headline belongs to a story by the associated press. Tell us why you don't trust the associated press. Tell us why QAnon doesn't trust the associated press. Nearly every news agency on Earth has no hesitancy about using the Associated Press for information. Now i am not responsible for your lack of education about the evidence. You likely wouldn't read it if I posted it. (too many words to translate into Russian). if you were an American you would have already read the article by googling the headline and finding the story. Now a Russian computer troll bot might not be capable of that. Biden is taking a tough stance on China as well as Russia. He should do that. China is not a place that treats American businesses who take their business there, fairly. Many American businesses lose their patent security, and lose their trade secrets after doing business in China. China has dropped the two child rule. It was considered to be a human rights issue by Republicans. Mothers in China are not likely to start having larger families. The quote from one Chinese mother was " More than two? One is too many!" If the evidence supports the position that U.S. sailors on shore leave introduced Covid 19 to China, should Trump be made to pay restitution to the World? Why did Biden take a "tough stance" with them if they're so perfect, commie? And Kirk, I know you hate Trump more than a Chinese dictator who lords over a slave working class, and probably more than Hitler too assuming you even hate him. I've had enough of you two commies. Bye.
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Post by James T. Kirk on Jun 17, 2021 9:53:56 GMT -6
The headline belongs to a story by the associated press. Tell us why you don't trust the associated press. Tell us why QAnon doesn't trust the associated press. Nearly every news agency on Earth has no hesitancy about using the Associated Press for information. Now i am not responsible for your lack of education about the evidence. You likely wouldn't read it if I posted it. (too many words to translate into Russian). if you were an American you would have already read the article by googling the headline and finding the story. Now a Russian computer troll bot might not be capable of that. Biden is taking a tough stance on China as well as Russia. He should do that. China is not a place that treats American businesses who take their business there, fairly. Many American businesses lose their patent security, and lose their trade secrets after doing business in China. China has dropped the two child rule. It was considered to be a human rights issue by Republicans. Mothers in China are not likely to start having larger families. The quote from one Chinese mother was " More than two? One is too many!" If the evidence supports the position that U.S. sailors on shore leave introduced Covid 19 to China, should Trump be made to pay restitution to the World? Why did Biden take a "tough stance" with them if they're so perfect, commie? And Kirk, I know you hate Trump more than a Chinese dictator who lords over a slave working class, and probably more than Hitler too assuming you even hate him. I've had enough of you two commies. Bye. So in other words you can't answer the questions. You would rather make shrill noises and accusations with no basis for them. As a rule I don't care for any dictators, though it's clear you wish Tramp had been one. And you haven't shown me any proof China's leader is responsible for covid and you know Tramp downplayed it as a hoax and set a poor example by refusing to wear a mask and by holding super-spreader rallies where people were not required to wear them. He was a failed president and the election results proved it. And I wish I has a quarter for every "bye" you posted. I'd be as "well to do" as you. lol
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2021 10:47:50 GMT -6
Why did Biden take a "tough stance" with them if they're so perfect, commie? And Kirk, I know you hate Trump more than a Chinese dictator who lords over a slave working class, and probably more than Hitler too assuming you even hate him. I've had enough of you two commies. Bye. So in other words you can't answer the questions. You would rather make shrill noises and accusations with no basis for them. As a rule I don't care for any dictators, though it's clear you wish Tramp had been one. And you haven't shown me any proof China's leader is responsible for covid and you know Tramp downplayed it as a hoax and set a poor example by refusing to wear a mask and by holding super-spreader rallies where people were not required to wear them. He was a failed president and the election results proved it. And I wish I has a quarter for every "bye" you posted. I'd be as "well to do" as you. lol Right, those Chinese whistleblowers' disappearances were just a coincidence. Why isn't the case closed then? This is just one of many reports proving that it's not an open and shut case and that there is still a strong possibility it came for a Chinese lab: www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57268111Maybe if you and Lowell chant hard enough, you can fix it so it'll be America's fault. Maybe to make you even happier, it will cause the destruction of the US completely and China can be the number one world power of the world. I bet you two Communists get tingly just thinking about that.
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Post by James T. Kirk on Jun 17, 2021 11:52:30 GMT -6
So in other words you can't answer the questions. You would rather make shrill noises and accusations with no basis for them. As a rule I don't care for any dictators, though it's clear you wish Tramp had been one. And you haven't shown me any proof China's leader is responsible for covid and you know Tramp downplayed it as a hoax and set a poor example by refusing to wear a mask and by holding super-spreader rallies where people were not required to wear them. He was a failed president and the election results proved it. And I wish I has a quarter for every "bye" you posted. I'd be as "well to do" as you. lol Right, those Chinese whistleblowers' disappearances were just a coincidence. Why isn't the case closed then? This is just one of many reports proving that it's not an open and shut case and that there is still a strong possibility it came for a Chinese lab: www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57268111Maybe if you and Lowell chant hard enough, you can fix it so it'll be America's fault. Maybe to make you even happier, it will cause the destruction of the US completely and China can be the number one world power of the world. I bet you two Communists get tingly just thinking about that. Well that "Bye" didn't last very long. LOL. This isn't a discussion about world power Dr. Evil. It's a discussion about the covid 19 virus. What would make me happier would be you discussing facts and let the blame fall wherever the facts point. The first line in the story you linked to reads as follows: "Nearly a year and a half since Covid-19 was detected in the Chinese city of Wuhan, the question of how the virus first emerged remains a mystery."But waiting for the facts isn't good enough for kooks like you. You need to have someone to blame, someone to sue and of course it has to be anyone other than Tramp for his mishandling of the pandemic in our country.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2021 16:10:16 GMT -6
Right, those Chinese whistleblowers' disappearances were just a coincidence. Why isn't the case closed then? This is just one of many reports proving that it's not an open and shut case and that there is still a strong possibility it came for a Chinese lab: www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57268111Maybe if you and Lowell chant hard enough, you can fix it so it'll be America's fault. Maybe to make you even happier, it will cause the destruction of the US completely and China can be the number one world power of the world. I bet you two Communists get tingly just thinking about that. Well that "Bye" didn't last very long. LOL. This isn't a discussion about world power Dr. Evil. It's a discussion about the covid 19 virus. What would make me happier would be you discussing facts and let the blame fall wherever the facts point. The first line in the story you linked to reads as follows: "Nearly a year and a half since Covid-19 was detected in the Chinese city of Wuhan, the question of how the virus first emerged remains a mystery."But waiting for the facts isn't good enough for kooks like you. You need to have someone to blame, someone to sue and of course it has to be anyone other than Tramp for his mishandling of the pandemic in our country. If it's determined that it DID originate in China, you and Lowell would never accept it. You two commies would still blame the US.
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