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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 9:55:03 GMT -6
Okay CP, hun don't you watch TV. I watched it on cable 6 here which is channel 3 local and it's NBC. I haven't owned a television set for about twenty years. I use to belong to a Church and most of the people didn't believe in having a tv.
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Post by carpathianpeasant on Sept 9, 2015 10:04:10 GMT -6
CP did you watch the clip? I watched about three minutes of it -- long enough to see a "presenter" and some interviews (which are useless to me as I keep the sound off most of the time) with text that had nothing to do with the story (they were just current headlines) and people getting on and occupying a train, including a sign that said "Budapest," which the people apparently were leaving. So, back to the original statement: they didn't have to go to Germany to find safety (per Mr. Orban). Conclusion: they weren't refugees (even though the site called them that), they were migrant workers.
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Post by carpathianpeasant on Sept 9, 2015 10:25:13 GMT -6
I haven't owned a television set for about twenty years. I use to belong to a Church and most of the people didn't believe in having a tv. The Amish don't believe in a lot of modern stuff and they do okay. Personally speaking, I started watching television around 1948, so one might say I'm close to a fifty year veteran of "television watching." Anything of importance is on the internet. I neither need nor want a tv. And, just as a side note, this high-falutin' (?sp) apartment building had satellite television services when I moved in, which satellite services had no internet (Insight did). Since then apparently the company decided that if they were going to stay in business they would have to offer internet services, as now they do.
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Post by lowell on Sept 9, 2015 13:51:20 GMT -6
" In December 2012, the Syrian National Coalition, was recognized by more than 130 countries as the sole legitimate representative of the Syrian people. Peace talks between the Coalition and Syrian regime at the UN-sponsored Geneva II conference in 2014 failed to produce a resolution of the conflict. Unrest continues in Syria, and according to a January 2015 UN estimate, the death toll among Syrian Government forces, opposition forces, and civilians had reached 220,000. So far, the conflict has displaced 11.6 million people, including 7.6 million people internally, making the situation in Syria the largest humanitarian crisis worldwide." www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sy.htmlIf you don't like my picture, you can read what the CIA has to say about Syria. The above quote is from the CIA world factbook.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 14:16:23 GMT -6
Yes, I agree. I think what Germany is doing is a wonderful thing but I think it will bite them at some point. Germany is the richest country in Europe and I think all those refugees well be a drain on their economy.
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Post by lowell on Sept 9, 2015 17:35:56 GMT -6
Bloomberg says "There's an economic side to this, too, says Kleist: "Germany's economic strength, a demographic decline and the need for labor all contribute to the welcoming of migrants including refugees." Indeed, one reason the refugee influx is fine with German voters is that Merkel insists the country will still balance its budget without new debt, and that taxes won't need to be raised to deal with the refugee crisis."
The Washington Post says "The reasons are many, but one stands out: demographics. In Germany, for instance, a rapidly aging population is becoming increasingly aware of the need to welcome foreigners. Other countries, where the aging trend is much less severe, have fewer incentives to welcome newcomers."
"Already today, Germany lacks young, skilled workers. Companies are unable to fill hundreds of thousands of jobs because they cannot find enough applicants. On Sunday, Dieter Zetsche, the head of car manufacturer Daimler, said in a newspaper interview: "Most refugees are young, well educated and highly motivated. Those are exactly the people we're searching for." European Muslims are indeed on average eight years younger than the rest of the population, a Pew Research Center study found. Daimler and other companies now want to search for applicants in refugee reception centers to fill their vacancies. Meanwhile, a first job portal has been launched on a Web site that is supposed to connect refugees with potential employers.
The influx of refugees could also benefit German society as a whole. The country's welfare system — one of the world's most generous — is increasingly strained because more retirees have to be financed by fewer working-age and tax-generating citizens. Today, there are three working-age Germans per retiree. By 2060, however, that ratio will be less than 2 to 1, according to the European Commission. "
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Post by matador on Sept 9, 2015 18:43:06 GMT -6
Looks like we will be getting some here, not sure how many but I just watched a hearing on cspan that Kerry was laying out a plan to bring some to America. They were debating the numbers to import.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 18:49:38 GMT -6
All that sounds good, I hope it works out for both sides.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 18:50:30 GMT -6
I heard 70,000. earlier.
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Post by matador on Sept 10, 2015 16:39:46 GMT -6
Looks like we will get 10,000
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