orogenicman
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Post by orogenicman on Aug 24, 2015 17:20:27 GMT -6
For the record - my experience with Windows 10:
I installed the latest "greatest" Microsoft product a couple of days after it came out. It is pretty. That is about all I can say about it that is positive. I sum it up as the most invasive OS in history. Not only does it utterly invade your privacy, it makes your information available to the highest bidder. And not just through advertising on the internet. Even after going through all the steps to change the default settings that allows for such intrusions (intrusions which, by the way, are required by design in order to use the new features of the os, such as Cortana), I did a web search on the new browser called "the Edge" (which is the worst browser I've ever used), looking for information on type two diabetes, and even though I am on the national do not call list, about 20 minutes after I did that search, I got a call from a telemarketer trying to sell me diabetes products. As bad as that was, it was merely the last straw of many other straws, since I had been receiving telemarketing calls several times a day ever since I installed Windows 10.
So to sum up my experience with Windows 10 - it offers nothing new without utterly giving up one's privacy rights, and even then, it offers nothing to increase productivity over its predecessors, many features that were previously available in, for instance, Windows 7, are still there, but are now not configurable. In other words, they have defaulted the os to death, and intentionally given us no option to change the way it works. They claim it makes the os safer. Yeah, because we all know how much safer it is to prevent users from deciding how long each image in your desktop theme is shown before the next one pops up. Give me a break. Fortunately, Windows 10 allows you to revert back to your previous os, in my case, Windows 7.
Really? Except when I tried to do that, it claimed that the files it needed to revert back to Windows 7 had been deleted, despite the fact that I could look on Windows Explorer and see that the files were still there on the harddrive. So I had to do a clean install of Windows 7.
No wonder they gave it away.
Not worth the bandwidth it took to download it.
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Post by matador on Aug 25, 2015 22:02:22 GMT -6
For the record - my experience with Windows 10:
I installed the latest "greatest" Microsoft product a couple of days after it came out. It is pretty. That is about all I can say about it that is positive. I sum it up as the most invasive OS in history. Not only does it utterly invade your privacy, it makes your information available to the highest bidder. And not just through advertising on the internet. Even after going through all the steps to change the default settings that allows for such intrusions (intrusions which, by the way, are required by design in order to use the new features of the os, such as Cortana), I did a web search on the new browser called "the Edge" (which is the worst browser I've ever used), looking for information on type two diabetes, and even though I am on the national do not call list, about 20 minutes after I did that search, I got a call from a telemarketer trying to sell me diabetes products. As bad as that was, it was merely the last straw of many other straws, since I had been receiving telemarketing calls several times a day ever since I installed Windows 10.
So to sum up my experience with Windows 10 - it offers nothing new without utterly giving up one's privacy rights, and even then, it offers nothing to increase productivity over its predecessors, many features that were previously available in, for instance, Windows 7, are still there, but are now not configurable. In other words, they have defaulted the os to death, and intentionally given us no option to change the way it works. They claim it makes the os safer. Yeah, because we all know how much safer it is to prevent users from deciding how long each image in your desktop theme is shown before the next one pops up. Give me a break. Fortunately, Windows 10 allows you to revert back to your previous os, in my case, Windows 7.
Really? Except when I tried to do that, it claimed that the files it needed to revert back to Windows 7 had been deleted, despite the fact that I could look on Windows Explorer and see that the files were still there on the harddrive. So I had to do a clean install of Windows 7.
No wonder they gave it away.
Not worth the bandwidth it took to download it.
A lot of people have had problems when trying to revert to an older version of Windows. I got the same message even though I had not deleted the files either. I also reported that to MS as kindly as I could. It was unfortunate that I lost my Win 7 computers and all my new replacements were Win 8.1, which I had fixed so it was just like Win 7 with improvements and running solid. My back up laptop has a touch screen like my Windows Tablet and the touch screen is great for Win 8 and 10, but my standard machine does not have a touch screen and I had to do work arounds to get it to work with 8 and in the end I had installed the old start button and you could not tell the difference between XP or 7. Now I am running 10 on all my machines but have turned off Edge, which in my opinion was a piece of more poop, and Cortana. As if I need a computer to talk to me anytime soon. I have also turned off every item and option that sends back anything to MS. I manually look for upgrades and quite often work offline since checking emails and this board is about the only things I do online. I heard a lot of stories about people getting cold calls from vendors and like most others that does turn me off. I have been lucky so far, no unsolicited calls. My problem on this machine was it crashed in the middle of upgrading and that caused a ton of problems, first off when it did finally install it refused to validate and said the product number was invalid, and when I decided to do a clean install it would not let me get past the screen asking for the product code. Since these new machines do not put a MS sticker on them anymore you have to hope that it is in the BIOS and that Windows can read it. Ended up it would not do that on mine. After many hours, and for the most part some very unproductive hours, on the phone with MS support about the best I could do was to purchase a new product number to even revert back to Win 8.1. I ended up doing the clean install and just figure that I will just run Windows un-validated for as long as I could. Ended up finally someone from MS called and manually validated me so now I can at least get updates. I did make me a list of things to turn off and changes so that privacy settings work and I should post it here for everyone who plans on using 10.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 6:24:54 GMT -6
I have 2 laptops both I installed Windows 10, both work well. One I have installed several updates and the other has updates waiting but for some reason they won't install. Any ideas on that?
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Post by matador on Sept 1, 2015 22:23:19 GMT -6
I have 2 laptops both I installed Windows 10, both work well. One I have installed several updates and the other has updates waiting but for some reason they won't install. Any ideas on that? Do a check in internet options, connections, lan setup, and make sure the proxy setting is not checked. I had that problem with this machine unable to get updates. If you uncheck the proxy and find that it reset itself there is a manual approach to fixing it but you have to go to the command prompt and use a command line option and that is not an easy thing to do for someone inexperienced with the inner workings of windows as you can really screw up the system and corrupt the system files to the point where you will not be able to use the computer until someone either can fix it or do a complete reinstall.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 6:17:46 GMT -6
I have 2 laptops both I installed Windows 10, both work well. One I have installed several updates and the other has updates waiting but for some reason they won't install. Any ideas on that? Do a check in internet options, connections, lan setup, and make sure the proxy setting is not checked. I had that problem with this machine unable to get updates. If you uncheck the proxy and find that it reset itself there is a manual approach to fixing it but you have to go to the command prompt and use a command line option and that is not an easy thing to do for someone inexperienced with the inner workings of windows as you can really screw up the system and corrupt the system files to the point where you will not be able to use the computer until someone either can fix it or do a complete reinstall. Thanks, It worked. I now have updates.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 6:37:12 GMT -6
I really like Windows 10, it's so much better than 8.1, I feel like I have a new computer.
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Post by matador on Sept 2, 2015 20:26:38 GMT -6
I really like Windows 10, it's so much better than 8.1, I feel like I have a new computer. If it wasn't for the BSOD (the old 'Blue Screen Of Death') I'd probably like it more. Right now getting the BSOD is like going back to Win 98.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 20:30:28 GMT -6
I haven't got the Blue screen of death yet. Oddly everything works good now. Anything beats 8.1.
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Post by lowell on Sept 3, 2015 5:10:40 GMT -6
Windows 10 works well for me. Then again, I haven't used Cortana or Edge. Windows 10 updates with Edge though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 12:09:42 GMT -6
It's the same here, I have stayed away from those two.
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